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fuel consumption is 5.5l/100km.
That's 51.4 mpg (uk)
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
I was saying somewhere menu to connect multimedia unit to wifi is useless.
Some people for some other models managed to "fix" that by upgrading the software.
Yesterday it seems that Toyota published an update for my unit.
It's at http://streamtechdoc.toyota-motor-europe.com/techdoc3/audio_navigation/17TDT1EU-DA31_Latest.zip
Release notes are as comprehensive as one can dream of: improve system stability and bug fixes. At least that it says when I install it. Nothing can be find on the web.
So right model 17TDT1EU-DA31, upgrade is from 1007 to 1075. It takes longer to unpack the zip file to an USB stick, upgrade it's a matter of 2 minutes. All needs to be done it's shown on the display.
And wifi still can't find any hotspot.
PS: I have no clue if this is suppose to be performed by end-user so you do it on your risk.

Let this be the only problem! Can't say I don't care, it's just annoying I have a menu that does nothing :)
Other than that? Car just works and I love it! Pushing the gas it's absolute fun! And after 1h of driving with loud music...oh boy!
 
drabisan said:
I was saying somewhere menu to connect multimedia unit to wifi is useless.
Some people for some other models managed to "fix" that by upgrading the software.
Yesterday it seems that Toyota published an update for my unit.
It's at http://streamtechdoc.toyota-motor-europe.com/techdoc3/audio_navigation/17TDT1EU-DA31_Latest.zip
Release notes are as comprehensive as one can dream of: improve system stability and bug fixes. At least that it says when I install it. Nothing can be find on the web.
So right model 17TDT1EU-DA31, upgrade is from 1007 to 1075. It takes longer to unpack the zip file to an USB stick, upgrade it's a matter of 2 minutes. All needs to be done it's shown on the display.
And wifi still can't find any hotspot.
PS: I have no clue if this is suppose to be performed by end-user so you do it on your risk.

Let this be the only problem! Can't say I don't care, it's just annoying I have a menu that does nothing :)
Other than that? Car just works and I love it! Pushing the gas it's absolute fun! And after 1h of driving with loud music...oh boy!
Does you car have factory navigation ( should have a MEU software version if so).

As the information I have says latest software enables wifi on T1 type headunit only if MEU is installed
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
I think I found the answer in MM17 diagnostic manual.

"With the MEU not connected only Wi-Fi Direct for MirrorLink and Miracast is available. With the MEU connected the DCU can also connect to an Wi-Fi
access point such as a mobile hotspot created by a smartphone. "

My reading is I can't connect multimedia unit to Wi-Fi because MEU is not present. So for cars with no navigation built in, there's no internet access.
 
Discussion starter · #25 ·
One drawback for this car: it draws too much attention! Too often for my taste another driver on the road turns into an idiot. Funny are the ones that are seeing a Toyota and they have to proof their car is faster. Sometimes worth showing them it's actually a fast car 😉. And it is! When pushed this one delivers!
But the real idiots...being a definition of road bully. I had to buy a camera. My choice was front and rear Thinkware Q800 Pro. As Irish dealer is still on lockdown (whatever), I bought it from Amazon and asked Toyota to install it. Less than 2h job and price was lower than Thinkware has online. My main concern was not to get any cricket in the car. I got none so far. Installation is clean, all cables are just perfect.
I'm happy with the result. Camera is decent to good. Software can be better or at least documentation could be way better.

And today I managed the best fuel consumption: 120km with average 5.0. 5.2 way in and 4.8 on the way back. Light traffic and speed always 10km/h over the speed limit, but I don't know the average speed.
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
One quick update: when reversing and car "sees" something, it breaks automatically and and breaks hard!
It's great, can't say it saved me at any moment, but it's a big plus. Just it's breaking so hard! And it's not that smart. It can't tell if the vehicle or person is walking away from car or coming towards. Consequently, when getting out of parking lot, I have to wait an extra second to make sure car/person doesn't show at all in the reverse camera (reverse camera is not used by the system, it's just a reference I set for me). Otherwise it will break on me shortly after I release the break pedal.
 
Discussion starter · #28 ·
1. School run and cold !=love for a 2l engine. Last 2 petrol station visits showed a 7.3l/100km average!
2. Still a beautiful car! Even dirty!
3. I tried Sygic! Instead of Google Maps or Waze! They open navigation to 3rd parties and Sygic is first! Looks super good! But don't use Emma's voice in Sygic unless you love adult movies!
4. I wonder if lockdowns didn't turn some people into stupid drivers? At least in Ireland this looks like to be true! And it's not because of Christmas rush or because some people are well above driving age (I'm not too far from renewing driving license yearly because of the age), but man...some people have to realise they are incapable!
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
1st year service.
Nothing to complain on my side. Just an 1h quick service. Oil, automated tests. All green.
Price: 0Euro! Because Toyota Ireland and first 3 yearly visits are free of charge.

I told them when I'll be able to come back and collect it. By the time I arrived, they washed and clean the car. But Toyota Sandyford was always a great dealer, the best one I've ever worked with!
 
Discussion starter · #30 ·
First birthday!
12800km and all great! Today it saw its first snow. Covering camera near mirror and it disabled anti-collision system
Fuel consumption: it hates 5-6km rides. Only from shirt rides average can easily go to 7-7.5l/100km. For rides of15-20 or longer, it gets back to ~5.
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
21.000km in almost 19 months.
A rattling sound in the front dash. A long piece of plastic around AC display going all the way to the left side of the dash. On bumpy roads I had to press above the AC display to make it stop. Went to Toyota Sandyford, half an hour later all great at no costs! That team is great! If you're from Ireland I can't recommend them more!

Fuel consumption: a long hot weekend (yeah! That's possible in Ireland! Global warming!), 1000km averaging 4.9l/100km! My usual driving, 10-15km/h more than speed limit. Unless narrow b-roads where they say limit is 80 but you have to be a great driver on an empty road to dream of those speeds. My usual fuel consumption is 5.2-5.5 and I find it absolutely great! My first Toyota, a 2.0l Avensis, was never ever doing less than 8/100 on long trips. In the city 10 was a lucky moment. At one time I had a Ford with a 1.5tdci engine and that one was doing 5s only on long roads.
I'm impressed, utterly impressed, by how good the AC is! A huge improvement over my previous 2018 C-HR. I knew it warms up the cabin much faster. But during the hot period we had, it was just perfect! A matter of minutes to chill the kids on the backseat! Other than being more stable so kids are not getting carsick anymore, this is the second huge benefit!
What I wish it had:
- seat position memory. A visit to service and good luck remembering what button does what adjustment! For driver, it's a PITA to realize you thing you put the seat on the right position only to find minutes later is not ok. And doing adjustments while driving is no different than those drivers checking notifications on their phone while pretending to drive. And I'm lucky both my wife and I can happily share the same seat position.
- windscreen washing liquid level indicator. I have to carry a 5l bottle because you never know when you run off washing liquid.
 
drabisan said:
Unless narrow b-roads where they say limit is 80 but you have to be a great driver on an empty road to dream of those speeds
A bit off-topic :) I remember locals were flying past us on those curvy hillside roads while I was visiting Ireland :D
 
Discussion starter · #33 ·
Karmalakas said:
drabisan said:
Unless narrow b-roads where they say limit is 80 but you have to be a great driver on an empty road to dream of those speeds
A bit off-topic :) I remember locals were flying past us on those curvy hillside roads while I was visiting Ireland :D
I know what you're talking about! Never got to that level!
 
Discussion starter · #34 ·
I joined the team that's running out of battery.
I had my car parked for a full week. Yesterday when I touched the door handle, it unlocked, it start unfolding the mirrors, but it only managed to unfold one. The other one was just partially unfolded.
And that was all 12V battery could do!
Fortunately car park had an emergency breakdown assistance free of charge and they arrived in less than 10 minutes. I do have Toyota Assistance, but they can't be everywhere in no time. So I was lucky.

Interesting part is I took off memory card from my camera. Camera, a Thinkware Q800PRO is configured for battery protection and should turn itself off if battery level drops below 12v. But it stopped recording around 9h after me parking the car. And that's totally weird! It's fairly common for the car to stay parked for 12-15h and camera never stopped before. Even today, more than 12h after parking the car, camera was still working and car started.
It's totally unclear for me what exactly happened. I reached out to Toyota couple of hours ago and I won't be surprised if they will ask for a battery testing.
I'll buy myself a battery to jumpstart the car. I'll keep it in glove-box and now I know what needs to be done.

Very very annoying experience! My previous C-HR, a 2018 1.8l started even after 22 days in the airport parking. It may be the camera, but I don't know how to test that part :(
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
Update on battery.
I was looking to find what voltage the 12V battery should provide. No luck whatsoever, all I can find are vague ranges. But virtually everyone says once it drops below 12.0V that's not good.
As I'm a lazy person, I didn't buy a voltmeter. But I have the Thinkware camera that can do that for me. It has a system to turn itself off once 12V drops below a certain level. I configured it to turn off at 12.2V. And I found that turns itself off just minutes after turning off the car.
Went to 12.1 and it takes about 5-6 minutes.
Went to 12.0 and it still turn itself off in the same 5-6 minutes.
What's weird is this is happening if I'm driving 20km or 100km.
I asked Toyota to check the health of the 12V battery. Not to anyone's surprise, they quickly concluded it's gone and they replaced it.
Now my thoughts:
  • I had no problems with 12V battery on my 2018 C-HR. Even though that one was drove the same as this one. And that one stayed parked for 3 weeks without running out of juice.
  • camera. The other one didn't had an always on camera. But camera turns itself off once it reaches a certain voltage. So I can't directly blame it.
  • this model is much more aggressive in turning off ICE. It's a great improvement, I'm getting the same fuel consumption and I get 40-50 more horsepower. But I'm wondering if 12V battery is changing while ICE is off. Or I'm running lights, audio etc from a 12V battery that's only charging when ICE is working?
  • a widespread batch of 12V batteries?

Anyways, I'm not going to sound like a disappointed customer! I LOVE this car! Not only by how it looks, but how it drives, how comfortable it is. This one is a keeper!
 
The 12v battery charges from the high-voltage battery, not the ICE, so will be charging if ICE is off.
 
Discussion starter · #37 ·
I think you're right. I found in the manual "The 12-volt battery recharges automatically while the hybrid system is operating". And since there's no reference of ICE, it's safe to assume 12V battery is charging also from hybrid battery.
Thanks for pointing to the right information. On the post above I was just speculating what could be the reasons.
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
As car is nearly 2yo and has 26500km (don't know when or where) I've made an appointment for the annual service.
Dropped the car at 9, call back to collect it at 12.
In Ireland Toyota offers first 3 services free of charge.
At around 11 I received an automated email with the report - all good.
Most impressive: disk breaks both front and rear used about 20%. I know regen helps a lot in preserving disks and breaks, but only 20% after 26k km...
Least impressive, but definitely not bad: tires are wear down uniformly (I do check the pressure every 3-4 months as I have an electric pump), but already at 5mm out of 8mm. That translates into maybe another 15k km and I have to replace all 4. Considering it's a heavy car, both of us are fairly "aggressive" drivers and I don't do summer and winter tires (would be ridiculous with Irish weather), I'm fairly happy with the speed tires are wearing down.
The report/form Toyota Sandyford sent had 3 questions: if I want to add fuel treatment (10€), change the polen filter (10€) and replace the wiper blades (40€). I was thinking to replace polen filter because humidity and dust because of all constructions in Dublin, but i didn't plan to ask them to do it. Wiper blades - the other driver says a loud yes when I asked her if I should have it replaced. 60€ in addition doesn't sound bad at all.

Like usual, they washed the car, clean the inside of the car (for some reasons when they clean it lasts lot longer then when we're cleaning it).

Done and happy.
Sales people were busy delivering 2 C-HRs.
 
As car is nearly 2yo and has 26500km (don't know when or where) I've made an appointment for the annual service.
Dropped the car at 9, call back to collect it at 12.
In Ireland Toyota offers first 3 services free of charge.
At around 11 I received an automated email with the report - all good.
Most impressive: disk breaks both front and rear used about 20%. I know regen helps a lot in preserving disks and breaks, but only 20% after 26k km...
Least impressive, but definitely not bad: tires are wear down uniformly (I do check the pressure every 3-4 months as I have an electric pump), but already at 5mm out of 8mm. That translates into maybe another 15k km and I have to replace all 4. Considering it's a heavy car, both of us are fairly "aggressive" drivers and I don't do summer and winter tires (would be ridiculous with Irish weather), I'm fairly happy with the speed tires are wearing down.
The report/form Toyota Sandyford sent had 3 questions: if I want to add fuel treatment (10€), change the polen filter (10€) and replace the wiper blades (40€). I was thinking to replace polen filter because humidity and dust because of all constructions in Dublin, but i didn't plan to ask them to do it. Wiper blades - the other driver says a loud yes when I asked her if I should have it replaced. 60€ in addition doesn't sound bad at all.

Like usual, they washed the car, clean the inside of the car (for some reasons when they clean it lasts lot longer then when we're cleaning it).

Done and happy.
Sales people were busy delivering 2 C-HRs.
Nice to hear. 3 months to my first service and I hope to get as good a treatment as that. Especially the car washing. Took mine to hand car wash for the first time before xmas (did it myself before that, but no time) and went to the wrong place - not one that did the detailing. It was fine, but seeing the pile of cloths they had in a bucket for washing has made me check for scratches. Will take it to the right place next time!
 
Nice to hear. 3 months to my first service and I hope to get as good a treatment as that. Especially the car washing. Took mine to hand car wash for the first time before xmas (did it myself before that, but no time) and went to the wrong place - not one that did the detailing. It was fine, but seeing the pile of cloths they had in a bucket for washing has made me check for scratches. Will take it to the right place next time!
I always ask the dealer not to wash my car. Most dealers don‘t do it properly, no pre-wash, dodgy leathers so swirls on paint etc.

i wash mine myself, pre-wash, two bucket method, separate microfibres for each stage, etc. and current car at 4.5 years has no swirls at all.

When mine goes in for service it has “do not wash” notes all over the interior, and I make sure the service card has same message on it
 
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