Flat battery!

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Timur
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Re: Flat battery!

Post by Timur » Wed May 06, 2020 4:28 pm

Don't you guys have Toyota Eurocare, 5 years breakdown cover free of charge including 12 volt battery failure?

adn1962
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Re: Flat battery!

Post by adn1962 » Wed May 06, 2020 5:31 pm

Charlie19 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 11:33 am
More than 1/4 mile from your home is a very different scenario to home start, which as one would expect means getting you started at home - it pays to check the definitions before deciding which you need!
Your challenge was to get breakdown cover for around £30. You didn’t stipulate it needing to be home start. Understand most would choose home, but £35 is available.

My original point still stands!
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Charlie19
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Re: Flat battery!

Post by Charlie19 » Wed May 06, 2020 6:07 pm

Hate to be picky but your original statement was -

"Not sure why anyone wouldn’t have breakdown cover. For £30 a year, you would have been sorted."

£35 is not £30, and for £35 it would not have helped anyone at or close to home so all in all a misleading and not very helpful claim.

adn1962
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Re: Flat battery!

Post by adn1962 » Wed May 06, 2020 8:02 pm

Charlie19 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 6:07 pm
Hate to be picky but your original statement was -

"Not sure why anyone wouldn’t have breakdown cover. For £30 a year, you would have been sorted."

£35 is not £30, and for £35 it would not have helped anyone at or close to home so all in all a misleading and not very helpful claim.
Breakdown cover would have resolved your issue......is the point. Not misleading either. You can get cover from £35. 🤷🏻‍♀️
Metalstream Excel 2018. Mud flaps, dash cam, Bumper corner protection, chrome boot and sill protectors, door handle protection film, Smoked Toyota wind deflectors, Spare wheel kit.
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Alexr
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Re: Flat battery!

Post by Alexr » Thu May 07, 2020 7:43 am

adn1962 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 8:02 pm
Charlie19 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 6:07 pm
Hate to be picky but your original statement was -

"Not sure why anyone wouldn’t have breakdown cover. For £30 a year, you would have been sorted."

£35 is not £30, and for £35 it would not have helped anyone at or close to home so all in all a misleading and not very helpful claim.
Breakdown cover would have resolved your issue......is the point. Not misleading either. You can get cover from £35. 🤷🏻‍♀️
Your £35 breakdown cover would NOT have resolved my issue because my car was parked on my drive. So without homestart cover they would not have come out to me.
All the best
Alex
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adn1962
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Re: Flat battery!

Post by adn1962 » Thu May 07, 2020 1:06 pm

Alexr wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 7:43 am
adn1962 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 8:02 pm
Charlie19 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 6:07 pm
Hate to be picky but your original statement was -

"Not sure why anyone wouldn’t have breakdown cover. For £30 a year, you would have been sorted."

£35 is not £30, and for £35 it would not have helped anyone at or close to home so all in all a misleading and not very helpful claim.
Breakdown cover would have resolved your issue......is the point. Not misleading either. You can get cover from £35. 🤷🏻‍♀️
Your £35 breakdown cover would NOT have resolved my issue because my car was parked on my drive. So without homestart cover they would not have come out to me.
All the best. Hope you get the help you need.
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Charlie19
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Re: Flat battery!

Post by Charlie19 » Thu May 07, 2020 2:55 pm

My electrical knowledgte is basic but as I see it this is the situation, so please do feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
There seems to be a constant discharge of about .01 amp from the 12v battery to fund various memories, locking etc.
Over a week this constant 100 milliamps per hour x 24 x 7 discharge = 16.8 ah
The car's battery to battery transformer charges at a maximum of 10 amps but only when the engine is switched on and whether it is running or not the charge still flows as the engine only directly charges the high voltage battery, which in turn charges the 12v battery.
A 16.8 ah deficit would therefore take a minimum of around 1 hr 40 minutes to replace - assuming everything works at maximum efficiency and there are no other losses - when the engine is switched on.
My 45 ah Mutlu battery has just been replaced by a Bosch 52 ah battery under warranty so even if it was fully charged to it's theoretical 52 ah, which is unlikely given how batteries work in the real world, it would be totally drained, probably beyond recovery, in three weeks, and possibly drained lower than 12v long before that time.
Have I misunderstood or is this glaringly poor design for real world use?

Tina23
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Re: Flat battery!

Post by Tina23 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:31 am

Has anyone found that a new battery has solved the problem of it discharging after a couple of weeks of no use? I have been told (17 months after purchase) that I should be doing 60 miles a week to keep the 12v charged - was anyone actually told this before buying their CHR?

So gutted, I love my CHR but having to charge it every few minutes is ridiculous - thought I'd be safe buying another Toyota (only just sold my 2002 Corolla which was a dream of a car and still running beautifully!).

IceColdCrash
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Re: Flat battery!

Post by IceColdCrash » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:52 pm

Tina23 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:31 am
Has anyone found that a new battery has solved the problem of it discharging after a couple of weeks of no use? I have been told (17 months after purchase) that I should be doing 60 miles a week to keep the 12v charged - was anyone actually told this before buying their CHR?

So gutted, I love my CHR but having to charge it every few minutes is ridiculous - thought I'd be safe buying another Toyota (only just sold my 2002 Corolla which was a dream of a car and still running beautifully!).
1.5 years with it, never had an issue, sometimes in the garage for 2 weeks,
If you leave it outside in the cold temperatures, battery discharges quicker, perhaps a small solar charger in the dashboard?
If you see you stay for a long time without using it and have a garage, perhaps better buy a charger and keep it conected,
15/03/2019 - 1.8 Hybrid

adn1962
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Re: Flat battery!

Post by adn1962 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:56 pm

Ask dealer to reduce the 5 days they set for car to look for key fob down to 1 or 2 days. That will probably help solve the battery issue.
Metalstream Excel 2018. Mud flaps, dash cam, Bumper corner protection, chrome boot and sill protectors, door handle protection film, Smoked Toyota wind deflectors, Spare wheel kit.
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