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Finally, after 10 days of waiting, I received the LED kit.
I think I'm the second member so far. ( MerlyWerly was the first)
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I went straight to install them. The whole process took a couple of minutes. Literal . CH-R is the most easy car to change the headlights bulbs.
I couldn't wait until night to install them and despite it was very very hot outside ~ 43°C / 110°F (hottest summer in Greece), I run outside and installed them under the hot sun.

First impressions were not so positive. I thought that the original Bulbs (HIR2) were brighter but i couldn't tell for sure as they have different colour temp and you can't judge them during day with bright summer sun light. Also the HIR2's had a hot spot that i couldn't see in LED's (that was another reason that i thought original bulbs were brighter). Another thing that bothered me was that in one headlight I measured about 20% less lux in same distance. But left and right headlights have different beam patterns and these measurements could be normal.

So I waited until night and get off from work, to form an opinion.

Wow!!! OK, whole different situation now.
First of all I really liked them from the first millisecond they turned on. I couldn't believe how smooth the beam pattern was. Really smooth. No hot spots at all. Α completely bright uniform light in front of the car. Also the cut off lines where very distinct. No haze, no blinding other cars. Also the beam was throwing a little further than stock lights so I had to turn one click down the beam height and they went in the same distance as before .

Not bad at all!

So are they perfect, I'm I completely satisfied?

Hmm, not 100%
First of all the build quality seems top notch. Best cables, connectors, o-rings, screw threads, heat-sinks etc...
But their temp colour is high. Higher than i thought.(Same colour temp as daylight running lights) Maybe my brain was used in the yellowish hue and needs some hours more with them to accommodate and get familiar.I don't know how they will perform during winter (rainy nights etc). Also the hot spots in old bulbs made them look more bright in some parts of beam pattern ( center and at the wide ends) and maybe a little wider. All that flat smooth light beam pattern that LED's throw seems a little strange.

Ι will give them a few days (mostly nights) and I will come back for final thoughts.

I took 2 quick shots ( low and high beam) with same settings, trying to be as accurate to reality ass possible from colour temp and brightness spec.

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High Beam
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(It's really hard to capture accurate colour temps and brightness at night but i tried as better as I could)
 

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i think they look really good ,you should put links up for others that may be interested :cool:
 

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ans said:
i think they look really good ,you should put links up for others that may be interested :cool:
There you are http://www.ebay.com/itm/9012-hir2-led-philips-luxeon-lumileds-headlight-car-headlamp-bulb-light-6500k-et/322443696082
I kept Merly's link. I hate my yellowish lights. I'm about to pull the trigger but not so sure yet if it's gona be led, xenon or just Philips extreme vision bulbs.
I use Philips bulbs on my KTM adventure and i'm really happy with them. I'm not sure about the heating in C-HR projectors though.
 

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engelo said:
Hi great Lights !!! Do we have CANBUS ? If yes is there any problem?
We have CANBUS but these LED's don't need anything . Just plug and play. No flickering, no warning lights in dashboard, no need for CANBUS cancellers .

Costas i haven't used Philips extreme vision in CH-R, only Osram Night braker but I didnt notice any difference in brightens. I think HIR2 are the best conventional "bulbs" and any other bulb would be waste of money. If these LED's where 6000k and not 6500 I would tell you to "hit" them now.
 

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As I posted in my original thread when I bought these...I can physically touch the heat sink on the back of the bulbs with my bare hand.
I could not do this with my HIR2 bulbs after the same use. So heat wise the heat sinks seem to be doing a pretty good job seeing as they do not have fans. This was after 30 minutes continuous use. They have a 2 year warranty.

Price to quality you can't fault them.
Are they perfect? No. Are they better than stock? I think so.
I do not regret buying them at all.

As for colour I was also a bit sceptical and wanted 6K rather than 6500K. However now they are in they are very close to the DRL lights which I now like. They blend together rather nicely.

One last thing. We had a post here about people not seeing you flashing your lights to let them go.
I no longer have this issue since replacing with this kit. One big positive.

**Edit - Bear in mind there are quite a few LED kits now available. All with different profiles heat sinks fans and temps (although most are 6500K.)
I picked these because they looked very high quality for the cost and the seller answered my questions quickly and professionally.
However, if your headlights melt, don't blame me :) :twisted:
 

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Kostas_F said:
My first thought was to match with daylight leds. Seems that 6500 it is.
What about the heat? I don't want to "burn" the projectors.
They have exactly the same temp as daylights. Exactly!
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The main body of LED's gets very hot. But most part of it and the whole heatsink is outside the headlights. And the led emitters dont emit heat as Incandescent lamps do. The projector interior is cooler. A lot cooler!

see the pics below.
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All the heat is getting outside in the engine apartment and the LED driver is outside too (like HID's ballasts) so i dont think they'll cause any damage.
 

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Mark said:
Great thread this is what the forum should be about
Thanks.
That's why I love forums. It's an excellent way to exchange ideas, help each other and keep info available for everyone. A simple Google search and you find it.
Not like closed social groups.
@Ans is the hero. He deserves most of the credit. I think he run this place. Don't he?
 

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only if you put them in the back of the car as well and can make your indicators sequential :lol:
that said they do look good for the money
 

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Just got some leds to put in reversing lights. and want some chrome bulbs for indicators to clean the look up a bit.
 

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MerlyWerly said:
...However, if your headlights melt, don't blame me :) :twisted:
Well. I pulled the trigger. Order placed. Expecting them July 12-18.
At least I know who to blame if anything happens. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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[email protected] is the hero. He deserves most of the credit. I think he run this place. Don't he?
Just found out Rob is the one. Sorry.
 

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No all Respect to Rob for running the forum. didn't read that bit till I saw the last post :oops:
But it do my best to help and if I can't help I take the piss :lol:
 

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No all Respect to Rob for running the forum. didn't read that bit till I saw the last post :oops:
But it do my best to help and if I can't help I take the piss :lol:
Do you store it somewhere special like? :p
 

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Well. I pulled the trigger. Order placed. Expecting them July 12-18.
At least I know who to blame if anything happens. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
So we will be 3 so far.
 

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Just getting serious for a moment here.

I wanted to touch on a point that many have made about after market kits such as these will dazzle and blind other drivers.
I know that Kapapapapa Taffff has touched on it but wanted to make it very clear.

Since I have had this kit I have passed maybe 100 or so cars. I have not changed the leveling setting on my car and have left it at default.
I have had no one flash me for dazzling at all since fitting these. The light from the LEDS is a very well defined clearly visible line.
Much more than I was expecting with no "scatter" at all that I can see. Against a brick wall my brother compared it to his standard halogen bulbs and the pattern compared very favourably (please forum stop trying to spell my words in American!)

I have purposefully taken my car out at midnight down some unlit country roads to see just how good they really were.
I could drive absolutely at normal road speed and could see extremely clearly and safely.
This was also the night the policeman stopped me at the roundabout and said they liked my car :)
For me this was the point where I felt that unlike HIDS and Xenons the LEDS actually blended in and seemed like a natural headlight for the car.

Apart from the longevity issues surrounding heat I would really recommend these lights.
It will be interesting to see what happens in a UK MOT scenario given that these kit types are fairly new.
Someone let me know in three years time ;)

On a slightly non serious note.... if Kostas ends up being happy with them then they must be good ;)
Damn.. I should be getting commission ;)
 

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Damn.. I should be getting commission ;)
Tell us the truth Merly, you work at Philips Marketing Department, right?

The CH-R projectors are big in diameter, so they are more "forgiving" in bulbs dimensions and placement. That's why the beam pattern is very good even with LEDs and I think that there will be no problem with HIDs too.

The only con for me about luxeon LEDs as I said before is the colour temp. I wanted them a little warmer. But i know a lot of people who "love" this hue.

I really want to find a CHR with standar LED headlights to do a comparison. Also I dont know whats going on with car warranty. The only sure thing is that when I'll go to the dealership for the annual service, I'll put the stock HIR2!
 
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