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Hello guys, as soon as you get your car what do you think is the best method for paint protection/detailing ? Should you wait for some time ? Are you against of any chemicals on brand new car ? Is some ceramic nano coating good ? Or just a wax will be good ? Open for suggestions ;)
 

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Chris said:
Hello guys, as soon as you get your car what do you think is the best method for paint protection/detailing ? Should you wait for some time ? Are you against of any chemicals on brand new car ? Is some ceramic nano coating good ? Or just a wax will be good ? Open for suggestions ;)
I've used Armorall Shield, having seen it recommended. It goes on like a wax but you wipe it off without waiting for it to dry and it does not leave white marks on the black plastic. It gave a lovely finish and the water (and dirt) just ran off it. I put it on 3 weeks ago and it has survived its first wash ok. It is supposed to survive 10 washes.
 

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Did you try searching the forum? It was already discussed in detail on several topics with the links and instructions.
Yes, but didn't find anything about ceramic coating
 

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It depends on the trade off between paint protection and gloss shine you want.

As stated in the other thread it is vital you've prepared the paint well, so in my case

1) Snow foam
2) Ferrous remover (it's amazing how much a new car has in production/shipping)
3) Wash again
4) Clay bar
5) Wash and dry
6) machine polish (ensuring the black plastic is masked off)
7) Ceramic Sealant such as cquartz

http://www.autogeek.net/cquartz-paint-sealant.html

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CarPro-CQuartz-UK-Edition-Ceramic-Paintwork-Protection-Kit-30ml-with-Reload-2016-/261519605835?hash=item3ce3c8804b:g:XUQAAOSwxCxT27tI

Ceramic sealant will last for 2 years, 3 if well looked after, carnuba wax about 6 months so will need redoing 3 times in same period, but will give a 'better than showroom' finish. To the untrained eye there won't be much difference between the two.

With either it's essential you don't take your car through an automated car wash

If you're not up to doing it yourself (it's a pretty intensive full day and you need it to be dry for steps 5-7) but certainly not worth paying a dealer £400 when they won't do it properly. Whereas a professional car valeting company will charge half as much and do it properly. :D
 

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Chris said:
Hello guys, as soon as you get your car what do you think is the best method for paint protection/detailing ? Should you wait for some time ? Are you against of any chemicals on brand new car ? Is some ceramic nano coating good ? Or just a wax will be good ? Open for suggestions ;)
I've used Armorall Shield, having seen it recommended. It goes on like a wax but you wipe it off without waiting for it to dry and it does not leave white marks on the black plastic. It gave a lovely finish and the water (and dirt) just ran off it. I put it on 3 weeks ago and it has survived its first wash ok. It is supposed to survive 10 washes.
Thanks mate. I have to use something, because i live on the sea and i'm afraid will damage my paint.
 

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It depends on the trade off between paint protection and gloss shine you want.

As stated in the other thread it is vital you've prepared the paint well, so in my case

1) Snow foam
2) Ferrous remover (it's amazing how much a new car has in production/shipping)
3) Wash again
4) Clay bar
5) Wash and dry
6) machine polish (ensuring the black plastic is masked off)
7) Ceramic Sealant such as cquartz

http://www.autogeek.net/cquartz-paint-sealant.html

Ceramic sealant will last for 2 years, 3 if well looked after, carnuba wax about 6 months so will need redoing 3 times in same period, but will give a 'better than showroom' finish. To the untrained eye there won't be much difference between the two.

With either it's essential you don't take your car through an automated car wash

If you're not up to doing it yourself (it's a pretty intensive full day and you need it to be dry for steps 5-7) but certainly not worth paying a dealer £400 when they won't do it properly. Whereas a professional car valeting company will charge half as much and do it properly. :D
thanks, that was really helpful ;) wanted to see if is good idea to use such things on a brand new car, i thought a new car is already prepared so maybe only wax needed, but as i see i'm wrong, full procedure is needed :roll:
Probably will go to professional car valeting company and hope to do it properly because i had bad experience before.
 

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No the only protection on a new car is the dirt/grime/haze.

For shipping they usually put a spray sealant on before they apply the shipping plastic, but all that does is seal the crud in.

I live by the sea (less than half a mile to the beach as the seagull flies and invariably poops on my car!) and am pleased to report after 3 weeks that they don't like pooping on grey cars!)

Dealer will only wash and dry the car, they won't do more unless you buy their overpriced protection package...then you can guarantee that it will be done badly, as it's at lowest cost/quickest time.

A professional valeting company will want your car for 1.5 - 2 days and it will cost a lot less :)

Or, if you have the time and the products, you can do it yourself, but currently in the UK I can't guarantee a rain free day, so best left to a professional with the facilities.
 

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No the only protection on a new car is the dirt/grime/haze.

For shipping they usually put a spray sealant on before they apply the shipping plastic, but all that does is seal the crud in.

I live by the sea (less than half a mile to the beach as the seagull flies and invariably poops on my car!) and am pleased to report after 3 weeks that they don't like pooping on grey cars!)

Dealer will only wash and dry the car, they won't do more unless you buy their overpriced protection package...then you can guarantee that it will be done badly, as it's at lowest cost/quickest time.

A professional valeting company will want your car for 1.5 - 2 days and it will cost a lot less :)

Or, if you have the time and the products, you can do it yourself, but currently in the UK I can't guarantee a rain free day, so best left to a professional with the facilities.
Living next to sea scares me because of sea salt, etc :| i will go to a professional valeting company then. As i know the ceramic coatings before applied they prepare your car in advance, so if has some swirls or imperfections etc they fix them, so i guess the apply beforehand ferrous remover then clay it and polish it.
My question, is it worth the money the nano ceramic coatings such "ceramic pro 9h" and OptiCoat Pro ?
On my previous car, they charged me around 800euro for preparing it and coat it with ceramic pro 9h !! :shock:
 

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My dealer has done it Toyota protect (306 euro) and wheels (66 euro). 5-year guarantee
But I don,t know how you can ever control it, hopefully, it protects.
I have never done it before on my cars (even not wax).
 

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Part of my deal was a free Supagard thrown in,and a nice case with lots of Supagard products in.I know it's early days but it's been raining a lot here recently and the rain just beads off leaving the paintwork looking very clean indeed.Why is the Supagard product not liked is it price or quality or something else?
 

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Part of my deal was a free Supagard thrown in,and a nice case with lots of Supagard products in.I know it's early days but it's been raining a lot here recently and the rain just beads off leaving the paintwork looking very clean indeed.Why is the Supagard product not liked is it price or quality or something else?
I had it on previos car (Prius) and did not think it was worth the price. I did not think it helped much with cleanliness. Bird dirt marks showed up even after cleaning them off and I found that minor scratches showed up more and could not be reduced with tcut. I think that the finish I have used this time is better (Armorall Shield) though temporary.
 

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Oh yes they do!!!!!!!
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My whole sentence mentions 'seagulls' do you have many of those in Reading?

Also 'Metal stream' doesn't have the word 'grey' in it anywhere, Decuma GREY does :lol:

So from someone that is regularly visited by seagulls (that have obviously been on the ex-lax the night before) I could perhaps reword to read Seagulls don't like pooping on DARK grey cars :?:
 

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My whole sentence mentions 'seagulls' do you have many of those in Reading?

Also 'Metal stream' doesn't have the word 'grey' in it anywhere, Decuma GREY does :lol:

So from someone that is regularly visited by seagulls (that have obviously been on the ex-lax the night before) I could perhaps reword to read Seagulls don't like pooping on DARK grey cars :?:
I have been known to drive it out of Reading! South coast has loads of seagulls.
Matter of opinion about if metal stream is a form of grey.
 

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I live less than half a mile from the beach, and my blue and black cars get major deposits, in fact sometimes I am amazed at the angle required to achieve total coverage their pebble dashing :evil:

Neighbours with a dark grey BMW and a similar hue Renault Captur haven't been deposited on in years, which is why I went for a dark grey that IS definitely grey and in 3 weeks not a single deposit :)

Toodles!
 

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I tried Meguiars Pain Protect.
Fairly cheap compared to the other options in that particular shop and it said 365 days of protection.
Followed the instructions but it lasted shorter than a normal wax so I do not recommend that one.
After a week the protection on the sides and back was gone completely.
 
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