Every time I start the car I have to set these functions. There is no explanation in the manual as to why Toyota have decided these can't be set to be on at start up. Brake Hold is a very important feature that I have come to rely on and its a right pain in the arse to suddenly find out its not on usually when you find yourself rolling back.
Brake Hold, iMT and Sport Mode - fed up with having to turn on at start up.
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Rolling back? I thought all models come with hill assist. Never used brake hold and never rolled back even driving out of underground parking.
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Is brake hold not different to the automatic hill start assist?
Mine doesn't roll back on hill start.
I've set mine on Sport mode. But I don't think it had changed back to normal when I checked again but will recheck.
Havent noticed any difference with IMT so haven't worried much.
Mine doesn't roll back on hill start.
I've set mine on Sport mode. But I don't think it had changed back to normal when I checked again but will recheck.
Havent noticed any difference with IMT so haven't worried much.
On a manual brake hold stops it rolling forward or back. Its different from hill start assist which only holds for a few seconds. Brake hold works for several minutes, its like a manual handbrake lite for smooth getaways. Agree i can see no difference with iMT but if its supposed to help with smoother gear changes why cant it be permanent. Sport mode has to be reenabled every time on start up, well on the Manual 1.2 it does.
You said it yourself
Brake hold works for several minutes, its like a manual handbrake lite for smooth getaways.
So what is the advantage that the system is set as a default. After when you start driving that should mean that every time you stop
the brake hold system is activated. So in a traffic jam (flat road). stop brake on forward brake off etc. I think that is too much
for the system.
I can,t oversee in wich situation you rolling back. My last holiday in Devon in June (more than enough up and down hill)
I never rolled back and I never used the brake hold system.
I suppose the 1.2T works the same as an Hybrid.
If you don,t noticed any difference between IMT on or off that means that you already drive smoothly.
So why you want it as a default you don,t need it.
I agree that sport mode should be possible to set it as a default
Brake hold works for several minutes, its like a manual handbrake lite for smooth getaways.
So what is the advantage that the system is set as a default. After when you start driving that should mean that every time you stop
the brake hold system is activated. So in a traffic jam (flat road). stop brake on forward brake off etc. I think that is too much
for the system.
I can,t oversee in wich situation you rolling back. My last holiday in Devon in June (more than enough up and down hill)
I never rolled back and I never used the brake hold system.
I suppose the 1.2T works the same as an Hybrid.
If you don,t noticed any difference between IMT on or off that means that you already drive smoothly.
So why you want it as a default you don,t need it.
I agree that sport mode should be possible to set it as a default
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All personal preference perhaps but I like it just how it is.
I use sport mode rarely and the brake hold rarely.
I only use Brake hold in heavy traffic where there will be longer periods of being stationary.
Driving round town stopping starting every few seconds I would not want to be using Brake hold it would drive me insane. (see what I did there?)
It's unfortunate that you are in a situation where you need brake hold a lot but for the majority of people it would be a hindrance not a help.
I tend to switch it on if I know I am going to be at lights for a while or in traffic jams/hold ups. I would never want to use it while I was slowly trundling along at low speeds and stopping and starting every few seconds.
Also I am not sure "relying" on it is the right word? It is a feature that stops you having to put leave your foot on the brake or engage the handbrake. My last two autos have not had this feature so its a convenience not a necessity or something that you should rely on for driving. I concur it is handy in some situations but I agree with Toyotas decision to auto reset.
Now a Sport button on the gear stick/steering wheel, that would be awesome.
I use sport mode rarely and the brake hold rarely.
I only use Brake hold in heavy traffic where there will be longer periods of being stationary.
Driving round town stopping starting every few seconds I would not want to be using Brake hold it would drive me insane. (see what I did there?)
It's unfortunate that you are in a situation where you need brake hold a lot but for the majority of people it would be a hindrance not a help.
I tend to switch it on if I know I am going to be at lights for a while or in traffic jams/hold ups. I would never want to use it while I was slowly trundling along at low speeds and stopping and starting every few seconds.
Also I am not sure "relying" on it is the right word? It is a feature that stops you having to put leave your foot on the brake or engage the handbrake. My last two autos have not had this feature so its a convenience not a necessity or something that you should rely on for driving. I concur it is handy in some situations but I agree with Toyotas decision to auto reset.
Now a Sport button on the gear stick/steering wheel, that would be awesome.
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Checked mine today and you do indeed need to turn the sport mode on if you need it every time. I don't think I realized as so many of my journeys are rush hour. Turned it on this morning for my journey and turned it off again before I got to work. It's definitely not a mode I think I would want on all the time.
Have to say though I had an Astra twintop a few years ago and that had a Sport button you just pressed when you wanted to use the Sport Mode. Much easier than having to go through the screens on the dash with the CHR.
Have to say though I had an Astra twintop a few years ago and that had a Sport button you just pressed when you wanted to use the Sport Mode. Much easier than having to go through the screens on the dash with the CHR.
To clarify the operation of the feature. When you have Brake Hold on it does not engage every time you brake. When you come to a stop you lift your foot off the brake and then tap the foot brake again for it to engage and illuminate the amber hold icon on the middle display.
That may be how it works on your car but on mine if you have switched on the brake hold (via button centre console) then whenever you come to a complete stop the brakes (automatically) stay on after you lift your foot off the brake pedal. As soon as you touch the accelerator the brakes are released. I can tell it is applying the front disc brakes as you can hear them bind as they are released.DuncanM said:
The benefit of this is that you can take your foot off the brake when stationary (reducing the glare on the car behind) and there is no danger of creeping accidentally.
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Not aware of any model requiring you to lift your foot off and press it again?
If yours is doing this then that seems very strange. You only need to come to a complete stop for the HOLD brake to engage if turned on.
If yours is doing this then that seems very strange. You only need to come to a complete stop for the HOLD brake to engage if turned on.
Well thats how it works in my 1.2 Petrol Manual. The operation in the Hydrid which is CVT only must be different. Perhaps someone with a manual gearbox can confirm. Drive along, come to a complete smooth stop with the footbrake and see if the amber hold icon engages without pressing the footbrake again. Obviously having the green hold icon already glowing after enaging the button by the gear stick previously. The majority of forum members seem to have the CVT gearbox so forget about us manual gearbox owners.
DuncamM wrote.
To clarify the operation of the feature. When you have Brake Hold on it does not engage every time you brake. When you come to a stop you lift your foot off the brake and then tap the foot brake again for it to engage and illuminate the amber hold icon on the middle display.
It depends on how I use my brake. If I brake till I really stop and then keep the brake on for a while longer the amber light go,s on.
If I brake till stop and release the brake immediately the CHR drive forward and then I brake again and the amber light goes on.
So I think the computer needs some time to realise to brake hold.
To clarify the operation of the feature. When you have Brake Hold on it does not engage every time you brake. When you come to a stop you lift your foot off the brake and then tap the foot brake again for it to engage and illuminate the amber hold icon on the middle display.
It depends on how I use my brake. If I brake till I really stop and then keep the brake on for a while longer the amber light go,s on.
If I brake till stop and release the brake immediately the CHR drive forward and then I brake again and the amber light goes on.
So I think the computer needs some time to realise to brake hold.
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When I use brake hold, I've noticed that it engages by pressing the brake pedal a little harder after you've stopped. No need to release it and press it again though.
I do miss having a sport button though, that and a volume control knob that turns, rather than up and down buttons.
I do miss having a sport button though, that and a volume control knob that turns, rather than up and down buttons.
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